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Hey gang, it appears that there is a Scrambler for everyone's visual taste and I'm a fan of the spoke wheels on the Classic. I'm aware the spoke wheels are heavier than the cast wheels. I rode an Icon a few weeks ago and I loved the handling and I noticed the suspension was quite stiff. Will the heavier wheels cause too much of a handling penalty? Will the heavier wheels work a bit better with the stiff suspension?
 

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Hi there!

What's the actual weight difference between the spoke wheels and the alloy wheels? Also, do you know if the spoke rims are running inter tubes or not? This will determine what kind of tires you can get which will have an affect the quality of handling.
 

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I notice it, but some people don't seem to. On a bike like this that turns in really nimble-like, I am pretty sure I'd notice it. Any added weight to the wheels (heavier tires in my case) is felt in the form of fighting a gyroscope.

When I put a rear tire on the front of my TW200 I immediately noticed that to lean it over in a turn it felt like you had to 'break it free' from wanting to be naturally upright. And once it broke, it felt like it fell rather than a natural smooth lean down. So I immediately bought another new set of OEM tires which solved my issue. The weight difference between the tire that was bugging me and the one that worked perfectly was four pounds. (8 pound tire vs 12 pound tire)

From what I read, the spoked wheels weigh more than that difference over the aluminum ones. Like anything, I imagine if you don't know differently, you just get used to it and that's what ends up feeling natural and normal.
 

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Hi there!

What's the actual weight difference between the spoke wheels and the alloy wheels? Also, do you know if the spoke rims are running inter tubes or not? This will determine what kind of tires you can get which will have an affect the quality of handling.
There is 13 lbs difference in dry weight between an Icon and a Full Throttle. I imagine most of that is the wheels. There are tubes used in these wheels.
 

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Icon and FT have the same wheels. Only UE and Classic have wire wheels.
Tires are all the same but UE and Classic have tubes.

My Classic handles better than anything I have ever ridden and surely can do more than I am capable of on or off road. Perhaps on a track and really pushing it you will feel a difference but it didn't stop me from getting the Classic.

Love it!
 

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Icon and FT have the same wheels. Only UE and Classic have wire wheels.
Tires are all the same but UE and Classic have tubes.

My Classic handles better than anything I have ever ridden and surely can do more than I am capable of on or off road. Perhaps on a track and really pushing it you will feel a difference but it didn't stop me from getting the Classic.

Love it!
hey, I agree with your response. I mean, how many out there can ride a bike to its full potential anyways....BTW, any more visual mods to your bike. I still look at your pics often. :)
 

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Well I've ridden the Icon and it was really nice. I guess I'll have to test ride the Classic to know how much of the magic, if any, is lost.
 

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I agree with much of the sentiment already posted. It's basically a form vs function argument. Unsprung weight makes a huge difference on everything from handling, braking, accelerating and maybe even wear and tear. Try walking around all day with ankle weights.


I actually went through a mag wheel to spoke wheel swap on a Bonneville a couple years back. Comparing them essentially back to back on the same roads, every aspect felt worse - braking, handling, acceleration - except for style.


That said, the Scrambler's not a sport bike. Get what makes you happy!
 

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I agree with much of the sentiment already posted. It's basically a form vs function argument. Unsprung weight makes a huge difference on everything from handling, braking, accelerating and maybe even wear and tear. Try walking around all day with ankle weights.


I actually went through a mag wheel to spoke wheel swap on a Bonneville a couple years back. Comparing them essentially back to back on the same roads, every aspect felt worse - braking, handling, acceleration - except for style.


That said, the Scrambler's not a sport bike. Get what makes you happy!
What he said :)

Jerry
 
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