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So Ducati is giving the Monster two new power plants an 821cc liquid cooled fromt he Hypermotars and an 1190cc out of the Multistrada meaning they will be moved up market which leaves a little hole in Ducatis lineup. Oh right, Scrambler.

With the Scrambler set to receive the Monsters old 796cc it should be slotting in right where the Monster used to be. Which is actually a little bit disappointing as i was hoping for a cheap thumper like the original Scrambler used to be. Going with the Monsters price we should expect to see Ducatis Scrambler come in under $10k. Triumphs Scrambler retails for $8,799 so you hace to imagine thats a target. What i would like to see is a Ducati Scrambler with a 500cc engine around the $6-7k mark to really do battle with Yamahas new FZ-09.

The Scrambler and the Monster 696 will be the two smallest rides in the Ducati stable, the 696 is retailing for $9,295. If Ducati wants the Scrambler to be competitive and grow the lower end of their customer scale the Scrambler needs to come in under the Monster 696. Especially with the Triumph in the mid $8's and the FZ-09 at $8 flat.


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It is all making more sense now. If the Scrambler gets the Monster's engine then the Monster will be moving upmarket and will get a bigger engine. Too bad the Scrambler won't be just a bit cheaper though. I was hoping for something around $8,000, not closer to $10,000.
 

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same here, you'd think that because they don't have to develop a completely new engine that the price would be lower because of that, i guess not
Well there's no pricing available ATM this is pure speculation based on what else is available..

The Scrambler should receive the Monsters old 796cc or the smaller 696cc, Honda has the NC700 fitting into that range as well. The NC700 comes to us with a 670cc plant and a $8,499 tag.

Bargain bikes are no longer boring, but now the question of choice comes in. Without any specs on the Ducati its a little tough to do a comparison but looking at weight alone on the Triumph and NC700....Triumph 506 lbs, NC700 480 lbs. Power to weight is relatively even coming in at 9.4 lbs/ horse for the NC700, while the Triumph comes in with an equally laid back 8.7 lbs/ horse, the FZ-09 really shines though, coming in at a pretty 3.7 lbs/ horse weighing a sleight 414 lbs...

You have to imagine Ducatis target is somewhere in there :confused::confused:
 

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It would be easier to just throw in an older engine an no one would complain. It seems like the small bike market just uses previous motors just in smaller frames.
 

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Well there's no pricing available ATM this is pure speculation based on what else is available..

The Scrambler should receive the Monsters old 796cc or the smaller 696cc, Honda has the NC700 fitting into that range as well. The NC700 comes to us with a 670cc plant and a $8,499 tag.

Bargain bikes are no longer boring, but now the question of choice comes in. Without any specs on the Ducati its a little tough to do a comparison but looking at weight alone on the Triumph and NC700....Triumph 506 lbs, NC700 480 lbs. Power to weight is relatively even coming in at 9.4 lbs/ horse for the NC700, while the Triumph comes in with an equally laid back 8.7 lbs/ horse, the FZ-09 really shines though, coming in at a pretty 3.7 lbs/ horse weighing a sleight 414 lbs...

You have to imagine Ducatis target is somewhere in there :confused::confused:
I do hope the Scrambler is noticeably cheaper than the entry level Monster. Or I might just got for a Monster.
 

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I do hope the Scrambler is noticeably cheaper than the entry level Monster. Or I might just got for a Monster.
Well yea I think thats the dilemma they are going to find themselves in which is why im relatively confident Ducati builds the scrambler to be a true entry level bike...

Plus being owned by Audi now puts alot of corporate pressure to grow the business into something profitable, I dont think Audi is meddling in development but certainly a tap on the shoulder here and there asking what have you done for me lately...
 

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Well yea I think thats the dilemma they are going to find themselves in which is why im relatively confident Ducati builds the scrambler to be a true entry level bike...

Plus being owned by Audi now puts alot of corporate pressure to grow the business into something profitable, I dont think Audi is meddling in development but certainly a tap on the shoulder here and there asking what have you done for me lately...
good point, it seems like the scrambler is one of the ways for them to make ducati into more of a mainstream brand than it currently is, targeting the cheaper segments.
 
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