[Riggins]

So I've had my sixty2 probably 6 months now, and ever since I brought it home it hasn't been starting like I assume it should. It try's to fire then stalls, then each start it idles a little more before stalling again. After about 4 or 5 times it will actually idle, but if you touch the throttle it'll struggle again like it's about to stall. I've taken it back to a Ducati dealer a couple of times now and they come back with nothing and say they adjusted some sensors and didn't have the problem when they had it. I installed a booster plug also to try help but still having the same problem. Anyone else had this at all? I filmed it to prove to the dealer when I take it back again, started filming after it failed the first start. https://vimeo.com/197983517


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[soakes]

Definitely not right. It sounds like the choke.

 

[Riggins]

Definitely not right. It sounds like the choke.

I wasn't aware it had a choke? Am I missing something?


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[Derek]

It's a fuel injected bike, it hasn't got a choke. The ECU alters the fuel mixture according to the data it gets from the sensors - air temperature and engine temperature. It does have an idle control valve though (servo motor) with which the ECU should maintain the idle speed regardless of temperature.

 

[Riggins]

It's a fuel injected bike, it hasn't got a choke. The ECU alters the fuel mixture according to the data it gets from the sensors - air temperature and engine temperature. It does have an idle control valve though (servo motor) with which the ECU should maintain the idle speed regardless of temperature.

Yeh that's what I thought. But the dealer has told me they've checked all the sensors and can't find anything wrong. But clearly there's still something wrong. Starting to give me the shits.


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[Derek]

The provisional workshop manual that is generally available doesn't say much about setting up the throttle body but on the other Ducati models there have is an air bleed adjustment that affects the air fuel ratio for closed and small throttle openings. It is normally used fine tune the CO at idle speeds but if incorrectly set will have an influence on how well the bike starts. It may be that a small adjustment to the bleed screw (if it exists on a Scrambler) is needed to improve the starting performance. Otherwise a TPS reset by the dealer should normally sort it.

 

[soakes]

I wasn't aware it had a choke? Am I missing something?

No, it doesn't have a choke, but it sounds like it The symptoms are the same as starting a bike with a choke without using it... so it is something to do with the fuel mix at low temperature. You need your service centre to test it cold.

 

[Riggins]

No, it doesn't have a choke, but it sounds like it The symptoms are the same as starting a bike with a choke without using it... so it is something to do with the fuel mix at low temperature. You need your service centre to test it cold.

Yeh that's what I thought originally. It's my first fuel injected bike. I've only ever ridden dirt bikes before now and they were usually easy to figure out. This is all new to me.

I've told the dealer that when I first took it in and left it there for a couple of days so they could start it cold. But they didn't. I'm not sure if they even did anything both times I've taken it back.


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[greer]

Riggins,

Have you been able to talk to one of the mechanics directly or are you dealing with the service manager? Might be time to deal directly with the person working on the bike, if the shop will let you. Best of luck to you, I'd be frustrated as **** too. Let us know.

Sarah

 

[Riggins]

Riggins,

Have you been able to talk to one of the mechanics directly or are you dealing with the service manager? Might be time to deal directly with the person working on the bike, if the shop will let you. Best of luck to you, I'd be frustrated as **** too. Let us know.

Sarah

Good point! Yeh I'll see if I can do that. At least I have a video to prove to them I'm not a liar haha.


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[jkblaq]

This sounds like a fueling issue to me e.g. not enough pressure in the system etc. I have two FI bikes the scrambler and an SR400. SR is kick only, so I use a little trick I used to use on my old VW Squareback FI. I turn the key on and off multiple times before starting the bike. Each time you will hear the fuel pump whirl and pressurize the system. This ensures that there is sufficient fuel pressurized.

This will not fix your issue, but maybe make it easier to start. Good Luck.

 

[Riggins]

This sounds like a fueling issue to me e.g. not enough pressure in the system etc. I have two FI bikes the scrambler and an SR400. SR is kick only, so I use a little trick I used to use on my old VW Squareback FI. I turn the key on and off multiple times before starting the bike. Each time you will hear the fuel pump whirl and pressurize the system. This ensures that there is sufficient fuel pressurized.

This will not fix your issue, but maybe make it easier to start. Good Luck.

Thanks I'll try that in the meantime, until I can get it back to Ducati.


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[Paddymon]

Same Problem - Dealer is Replacing ECU

We purchased a demo 2016 Sixty2 in June with 8 miles on it, and it never started properly. Exact same symptoms that the OP reported here. After six trips back to the dealer they have determined that the control unit thinks the ambient temperature is -40 when the engine is cold. They requested codes from Italy to do a complete reset, but that only worked for about 24 hours. Now they are replacing the whole ECU with a unit from Italy. We've missed a month of precious riding season here in Vermont!

 

[Steve Panzica]

Same! Brand new 2018 I got 4 days ago with 0 miles on it. Same symptoms every morning. There has got to be a fix for this. I am contacting the dealer ASAP>

 

[JulanMastrow]

That's an interesting point to know..

 

[brainbox1100]

I have the 2018 Scrambler 1100 and it does this if its been sitting for a few days; it only started doing this a few weeks ago. Reminds me of trying to start a old car on a cold winter morning. Once its running its totally fine. Usual takes 2-3 tries before it starts. I'll have them check over the ECU when it goes in for a service in September. Not a big deal since it always starts - but would be nicer if it started first try.