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The other day, I got caught riding for 10-15 mins in the rain. I got soaked and so did the bike.

The next day, the bike was dry and it was a nice day, so I went to the service station to fuel up for a ride. When I opened the tank cap, there was quite a resistance and "sucking" sound as I overcame the vacuum to get the cap open.

Then I noticed droplets of water in the fuel. I took a closer look at the cap mechanism, its a tapered plastic bung with a rubber seal at the bottom, all covered by the cast metal cap on top. It appears to me that water can make it's way past the clearance gaps in the metal cap and sit in the wedge area, only stopped by the final lower seal.

The problem is, even knowing there may be moisture sitting there, you can not do anything about it because as soon as you lift the cap, the seal is broken and the water falls in. The significant vacuum present only helps to suck it in. You can't get a rag or anything in there before the water drops in.

To me, this is a poor design issue. For now, I'm thinking the best way to get the moisture out of the fuel is to let the bike sit in the sun to heat up, and open the tank to let the condensation out. Base on my experience with aircraft, water usually sinks to the bottom of a fuel tank, and you can drain it off if there is a valve in the right place. I haven't yet had a close look at where the fuel lines attach, and they may be slightly above the lowest point of the tank meaning any water going into the tank could sit there for years condensating and eventually rusting the tank.

In the longer term, I'm wondering what to do apart from devising some kind of cap cover when it's likely to be subject to rain.

Any thoughts?
 

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The cap is vented - your vent must be clogged up - no way there should ever be a vacuum in there.

I've ridden for hours in torrential downpours. In addition, I've doused the bike numerous times with high pressure water (I go off-road often) and have yet to get any water in the tank.

Sounds like you've got something wrong with your cap.
 

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Have you done the evap canister removal?

If you have, make sure you plugged the correct line!

If you haven't, try disconecting the breather line there and blowing into it. (With the cap open you should be able to blow down it freely)
 

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Tonyjuliano's right, if you've got a vacuum you've got a blocked breather. If you can't clear it yourself take it to your dealer who should sort it with an airline in a few minutes.

Jerry
 

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I remember the first time I opened the tank, like 30 seconds ride from the dealer, the tank sucked like that when I opened it. I see others in europe also reporting similar. I'll check it out. I am wondering if the vent system is also designed to be a drain for water, so if that is blocked then it's logical that water is also not draining away via that, as there is nowhere else for it to go but to fill the rebate and flow into the tank hole, getting stopped by the final seal.

I doubt very much it is blocked by dirt or anything, sounds to me the hose is pinched or not flowing properly from factory new.
 

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I wish I had access to one of the bikes affected because I'd love to figure out why it's happening. If it was my bike I'd hook up a hand vacuum to the port hole and test it to see if it was holding vacuum. If so, I'd then blow air through it to see if it was allowing air out.

That way I'd know if there was a bad design of a one-way valve on the part of Ducati that needed to be found and opened up permanently.
 

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I agree with the other comments.


I have ridden in monsoonal Mexican rain several days since the day I bought my Classic in Guadalajara. Bad timing, eh? :) My fuel tank lid opens with no effort, and have see no signs of water.
 
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