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They've said it was to be an entire product line right from the start. There are a couple of ways to give it a smaller engine. They could use the engine from the Monster 696, or they could use a single barrel from any of the three air/oil cooled Monsters from last year. The second option might require the use of a balance shaft or different crank case.


They've already mentioned planning to make a 48HP version of the 803cc engine, for the beginner's licenses you guys have over there in Europe, by simply using different cams and throttle body.


If I had a choice between a low output twin, or a larger thumper, I'd pick the twin for smoothness.
 

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This will be interesting how this spans out, a good call from Ducati.
Aim for the restricted license holders to those who want more power and those in the middle.
I wonder if they will make one like a mobility scramble for the elderly, lol. No offense to the elderly.
 

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This will be interesting how this spans out, a good call from Ducati.
Aim for the restricted license holders to those who want more power and those in the middle.
I wonder if they will make one like a mobility scramble for the elderly, lol. No offense to the elderly.
I'm currently on the a2 restriction at the moment (47bhp) so this is particularly relevant to me. Basically it's going to be the same engine used but just fitted with the restrictor kit. As far as I'm aware, this is done with the cams I think but don't quote me on that as I'm not mechanically gifted. Once the restricted period is done it's simply a case of taking the restrictor kit out. After that you're blessed with the usual 75bhp.
 

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I'm currently on the a2 restriction at the moment (47bhp) so this is particularly relevant to me. Once the restricted period is done it's simply a case of taking the restrictor kit out. After that you're blessed with the usual 75bhp.
I would have thought Jayjay's approach is the way ahead for 'learners' and would is a far better option than buying a bike with lower output for licence compliance and then selling/buying a more powerful machine on passing the test(s). It may be that for other countries with different approaches a smaller capacity scrambler might make sense, but I don't see it for the UK, unless a 125 but that would need to be a whole new design surely..
 

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They've already mentioned planning to make a 48HP version of the 803cc engine, for the beginner's licenses you guys have over there in Europe, by simply using different cams and throttle body.
48hp versions as full to 106hp limitations (french legal specification that will be over in 2016) are now commonly obtain by limiting the throttle command movement and a switch in the electronic. It's very rare today to have a change on the ecu or throttle body (Honda is the only one to use this methode as far as i know).

You can move a bike from 48hp to full and the same in the other way for an hour of work and some paper works
 

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Interesting move. I wonder if it has anything to do with KTM sending their 390 Duke and RC 390 to the US? When I was first moving over to street from dirt when I was 15, there were pathetic choices for a sporty first street bike. Honda had an old tired 250 Interceptor, and Kawasaki had the EX250 and EX500 (later called the Ninja). I bought the EX500 since it was the "coolest" of the bunch, but wow today there are tons of cool options for 500cc or smaller! Here are the newest KTM 390s, which I'm honestly tempted to pick up an RC for track days just for the heck of it!


 

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A detuned at 90hp Monster 1100 Evo engine?
It fits in and i'm quite sure the chassis could take 90 hp.
Eventually with a twin front disc in order to justify the price difference (2k€?)
Yep--it will all come down to the price difference--I would almost second guess buying what will become the "mid-size" Scrambler, until I think about having to fork out another $2-4K!

...but with the 1100 evo powerplant, the Scrambler would be AWESOME!!
 

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I must agree about the 1100 engine, but having a Monster Evo i also know that you are immediatly at speeds witch could make you lost your license and the chassis give you an ease to keep that speed.
So i'm waiting my Urban Enduro with the hope of having the same fun with less speed. I go for the mid-size, we'll see how long i stand my position.
 

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Is this verifiable that Ducati will be potentially releasing a higher spec model later in the year?
Sent Ducati an email asking this question (with regards to lower and higher power). According to them they have no plans as yet, and with regards to lower power they say that the bike can be factory restricted,

I am sure we will hear something different from other dealers, only time tells the truth. May be they don't won't us (the general public) knowing all.

So for now the plot thickens
 

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Sent Ducati an email asking this question (with regards to lower and higher power). According to them they have no plans as yet, and with regards to lower power they say that the bike can be factory restricted,

I am sure we will hear something different from other dealers, only time tells the truth. May be they don't won't us (the general public) knowing all.

So for now the plot thickens
Yea I think asking Ducati won't get you much unless you are a dealer or someone connected.

Not sure if I want want a bigger engine anyway, as it would probably go liquid cooled, and lose the lightness, sleek look.

I have a 2013 moto guzzi V7 right now but thinking about selling it for the scrambler. My V7 is a great bike despite having about 25hp less than the scrambler, so I'll have to test ride the scrambler first. I did a good amount to the bike to make it perform better though so that's why it will be hard to let it go.
 
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