Neutral gauge problem

grclarke

· #2 · May 17, 2015

Hi - yes have had similar experience once or twice. Hoping it will sort itself out when i get more miles on the bike

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PeteI

· #3 · May 17, 2015

Fpimiento said:
is anyone experiencing that the neutral gauge light doesnt show up?

Sometimes when switch to neutral i dont know if im in gear but just let loose the clutch lever and im in neutral i havent been able to take a picture but i will so i have a proof to show to the dealer.
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Man, it seems so many gliches so far. I wonder if they test these before they ship them? Your issue should have NO WAY passed inspection! :|

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Berkin

· #4 · May 17, 2015

I thought I had it too but its basically in between gears when the light doesn't light up. You can actually feel the engine changing its sound. more decisive gear changes solves it.. my 2 cents

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When I got the bike, I had problems finding / changing to neutral. But after 1000km, everything is ok now. In my mind, you have to do very delicate movement, when changing to neutral and then the green light will glow. And like @Berkin said, you feel the engine changing it's sound. It will "brake in" when you get more miles.

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Janek

· #6 · May 17, 2015

I had the same. But IMO it's not the bike but the way of doing it I was used from other bikes. After 300km I've used to new way (it is more closer to 2nd gear than middle) and now I can find it with eyes closed

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cb_abq

· #7 · May 18, 2015

Fpimiento said:
is anyone experiencing that the neutral gauge light doesnt show up?

Sometimes when switch to neutral i dont know if im in gear but just let loose the clutch lever and im in neutral i havent been able to take a picture but i will so i have a proof to show to the dealer.
Thanks

I have had that happen once. It happened with the break-in oil, and I just spun a circle and tried again and it was fine. It has not happened since.

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Fpimiento

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 24, 2015

Thank you all for replying, i managed to take the photo, here i go.

No hands on the clutch and still no neutral light glow, i am taked the bike to service check.

I will let you know

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RamblingPath

· #9 · May 24, 2015

I had it happen early once or twice in the ownership of a M796. It happened when I got frustrated in finding neutral., and it did eventually sort out.

I am having a hard time hitting neutral on the scrambler. But as Janek reminded me its not really half-way between 1st and 2nd, but closer to 2nd.

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When I first got a M796, I took it out for the first day of breaking in the engine. The gearing would not go above 2nd. Luckily, because of the gearing that meant 50 mph was not a problem, and straight to the shop we went.

The mechanic told me I needed to shift decisively. Then he tried,

it was stuck.So within two days of owning my first Ducati, a complete tear down of the gearbox. Guess what I was thinking at the time

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Other than a few false neutrals which worked out over time,no other problems. While I will never say I love the gearbox, I did love that bike. I also got to know an excellent Ducati master technician, whom I trust with my bikes.

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cb_abq

· #10 · May 28, 2015

Fpimiento said:
is anyone experiencing that the neutral gauge light doesnt show up?

Sometimes when switch to neutral i dont know if im in gear but just let loose the clutch lever and im in neutral i havent been able to take a picture but i will so i have a proof to show to the dealer.
Thanks

Yep...it happened twice today alone. This is definitely a problem. I am wondering if oil viscosity will help this. My first oil change was to Royal 20w-50.

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Fpimiento

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 28, 2015

cb_abq said:
Yep...it happened twice today alone. This is definitely a problem. I am wondering if oil viscosity will help this. My first oil change was to Royal 20w-50.

I am taking the bike to the dealer, i will let you know

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silverluxe

· #12 · May 28, 2015

It's happened to me. 'real neutral' is pretty specific. There's no positive neutral like on Japanese bikes, but I've been managing OK.

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Agusta

· #13 · May 28, 2015

No problem with my Full Throttle

Herzlich grüsst
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Meancatdaddy

· #14 · May 28, 2015

Ive finally figured my neutral out. I was having trouble because I use 2 fingers when I use my clutch (motocross habits) and whenever I had it pressed under 2 fingers and wanted to access neutral it wouldnt go. Now i depress the lever all the way in to the grip and she slides in super smooth everytime.

Hope this helps.

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rulle_retard

· #15 · Jun 3, 2015

Fpimiento said:
I am taking the bike to the dealer, i will let you know

Have you been to the dealer? What did they say?

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silverluxe

· #16 · Jun 3, 2015

It's probably my history of owning almost nothing but fickle, old, badly maintained motorcycles, but I'm not having problems finding Neutral. You have to remember what gear you're in so you're not hunting for it between 2nd and 3rd gear or something. Once you're where you're supposed to be, sometimes you have to shift down to 1st and bump up. It's harder to find neutral from bumping down from 2nd.

This is true of almost every crappy old motorcycle I've ever owned. My Kawasaki has some sort of positive neutral finder, so it goes there almost on its own when you're down shifting, but every other bike? Worse than the Ducati.

So my final verdict is that it's probably normal behavior for this bike and that it's not as fool proof as a Japanese bike. But after you get used to riding the bike on these terms, it's not a big deal. Just like not having a gear counter isn't a big deal. My brain is putting speed/RPM ratios into long term memory and I can pretty accurately tell you what gear I'm in if I see the tach and speedo. But there's still times I think I'm in 2nd gear when I'm really in 3rd. You really walk up and down the gear stack just riding around town in normal traffic, so it's easy to get off by a gear in your head.

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DannyCoolBeans

· #17 · Jun 9, 2015

another idea would be to make sure there is minimal slack in the clutch cable lever. A loose lever would give you similar problems

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cb_abq

· #18 · Jun 9, 2015

I feel like this issue will need a sticky thread in the tech section. This has been asked a couple of times, and I experience it. It seems to be part user error and part non-positive (compared to Japanese bikes) neutral gear box. This seems to diminish with wearing in, changing of oil, and active user effort on shifting into neutral, IMHO.

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PeteI

· #19 · Jun 9, 2015

Fpimiento said:
is anyone experiencing that the neutral gauge light doesnt show up?

Sometimes when switch to neutral i dont know if im in gear but just let loose the clutch lever and im in neutral i havent been able to take a picture but i will so i have a proof to show to the dealer.
Thanks

ive had that happen on several bikes over the last decade. I was hoping not the scrambler when it gets broken in. what are your miles?