[kirkgarcia]

Hi Everyone!
This is the scenario:
15-20 day trip; Two people on the bike; Possible high pipe Termi configuration.

What would you take as traveling bags? (is there a Kriega configuration as Saddle bags? for example?)

Love to hear what you have to say about this.
If your opinion would be, "don´t use this bike to do this... instead buy a BMW GS1200... " please don´t. The idea is to make brainstorming for this scenario.
Thank you! and hope there are some good inputs that will help lots of riders in this situation.
Cheers!

 

[Joe Bar]

Being two up isn't leaving much room on the bike, which obviously means your luggage can't sit on the seat.

So, first up, whichever route you go, you'll need to plan and pack carefully, as I can't think you'll have much excess. Nobody is making any heavy duty luggage frames yet for the bike, so hard luggage is probably out, and anyway soft luggage is lighter and more flexible.

Secondly, the high pipe is another reason to think hard luggage is out, as any manufacturers coming to the market will probably make their frames to fit the standard low pipes. The high pipe also means that you're going to need some sort of support frame for any throw over saddle bags / panniers so that they don't sit on the pipe and burn through, but even without the high pipe a support frame will help.

A rear rack will add capacity, give your pillion somewhere to hold on, and a rear bag / top case somewhere to lean on.

The next problem is - fitting support frames for the saddle bags and a rear rack will require some thought, and a custom build ideally. There isn't enough space to mount both on the rear subframe mount points, but a good fabricator could make a neat rack with integrated saddle bag supports that would work I'm sure.

In terms of luggage capacity, with a decent rack and supports, you'd be looking at 25-30 litres per side for saddle bags, up to around 35 litres for a tail bag, and around 13 litres for a tank bag, so just over 100 litres in total, which would just about do the job.

But, your first port of call is a good fabricator to do the pipe work for the racks / saddle bag supports. On the rack, a larger / wider load platform will keep the rear bag / top case more stable. You don't want any overhang at the rear otherwise you'll obscure the tail light.

 

[DJKham]

Wow. That's a tough one. With 2 people on the bike and that many days of travel:

-Ogio, Kriega or similar backpack for your passenger
-Tank Bag
-Some type of side cases (may or may not work with the high-mount exhaust though so you may have to make due with just the backpack and tank bag!)

Just remember that a single pair of underwear can be worn 4 different ways (frontward, backward, flip inside-out and repeat) and you might be OK

 

[Joe Bar]

Backpacks for 10-15 days are literally a pain. Kriega are the best, but still not the ideal solution. I can't see this scenario working well with the aftermarket or oe hard parts currently available.

 

[kirkgarcia]

Thanks a Lot Joe Bar and DJKham. Excellent ideas. It is a tough one.
What do you think in terms of Weight? on the rear suspension? The passenger weighs aprox. 55kg.... plus all those bags...

 

[Joe Bar]

What do you think in terms of Weight? on the rear suspension? The passenger weighs aprox. 55kg.... plus all those bags...

The suspension on the Scrambler isn't the best, and packing light / usuing soft luggage will all help to keep the weight down. Most seem to be running the lower preload settings for standard riding, so there should be scope for jacking up the preload to help cope with the extra weight.

From your first post, you already appreciate the Scrambler isn't the ideal bike for two up travel, but I think it's perfectly do-able. Maybe not as quickly, not as easily or as comfortably as on a R1200GS, but ridden accordingly I cant see why the Scrambler isn't up to the job. People have been further, for longer on much less.

 

[DJKham]

Thanks a Lot Joe Bar and DJKham. Excellent ideas. It is a tough one.
What do you think in terms of Weight? on the rear suspension? The passenger weighs aprox. 55kg.... plus all those bags...

Indeed my friend, you are setting yourself up for a challenge.

Still, given all the added weight you will add on the back, you will definitely want to increase the preload. Good news is that you've got the key with you in the tool kit so you can experiment on-the-fly.

Be careful if you do go the route of adding a luggage rack behind the bike as with a passenger, all that luggage and our beloved "quick" throttle response + torque, you may get into some trouble (see wheelie thread).

Either way, be safe in whatever you decide to do.

 

[kirkgarcia]

Definitely DJKham, I will have to adapt to this situation. perhaps there will be some aftermarket modis to come...
With a low pipe, the possibility of having Some Kriega overland 30 would make it easier perhaps.
thanks for everything!

 

[Slaine]

A rack on the back and a seasick, however you will be coming close to the carrying weight of the bike and the suspension only has 2 clicks from the middle setting.

 

[RamblingPath]

Are you traveling to a location or locations from which you are going to do shorter rides, Base Camps? If so, how about shipping/mailing some gear ahead?

 

[MotoChief]

UPS clean stuff for a stop every couple days and mail out your dirties. Only carry the very bare essentials. No way to be comfortable on a Scrambler for that long with enough stuff for two people.

 

[Crilly]

My minimum riding gear for a trip. Vented padded jacket for armor. Blue jeans , belt. Riding boots, socks, t shirt, and helmet. I would then need space to pack my electric jacket and rain gear. (Rain gear over vented jacket) Pills, tooth brush and small bottle mouth wash. Extras, nice to have, blue jeans, socks, 2 spare t shirts. Do laundry every 3 days. Drink water every fuel stop. I wish you a lot of luck.

 

[Joe Bar]

Plan B -

 

[greer]

My minimum riding gear for a trip. Vented padded jacket for armor. Blue jeans , belt. Riding boots, socks, t shirt, and helmet. I would then need space to pack my electric jacket and rain gear. (Rain gear over vented jacket) Pills, tooth brush and small bottle mouth wash. Extras, nice to have, blue jeans, socks, 2 spare t shirts. Do laundry every 3 days. Drink water every fuel stop. I wish you a lot of luck.

That's us, too. I also pack a clothesline and clips for hanging laundry after washing out in the sink. 3X concentrated detergent in a water bottle along with dryer sheets in a ziplock and you're set. That body wash/shampoo combo stuff they have nowadays cuts down on the toiletries.


Sarah

 

[kirkgarcia]

Are you traveling to a location or locations from which you are going to do shorter rides, Base Camps? If so, how about shipping/mailing some gear ahead?

Yes I will be traveling to location as Base Camp. But in my country shipping gear ahead is not a possibility.... though it would be great.

 

[kirkgarcia]

Plan B -

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[Spack]

I would get a Windscreen! The Dart pics posted on the forum look pretty good. Minimalist but still functional. Fighting the full force of the wind gets pretty fatiguing after 40-50 miles, let alone days.

 

[kirkgarcia]

I would get a Windscreen! The Dart pics posted on the forum look pretty good. Minimalist but still functional. Fighting the full force of the wind gets pretty fatiguing after 40-50 miles, let alone days.

Yes, I imagine it would, but I´ve seen in the dart screen post that generates more turbulence on the helmet area.

 

[Jonnyk8]

With the high pipes saddle bags just won't work. I've done a trip through the Alps on a 600 sports bike so my advice is a large tank bag and ruck sack on the pillion. You'll just have to re use your under pants lol I've kreiga stuff and it's great. Check out this pic with a scrambler with 30lt tank bag.

 

[Joe Bar]

Yes, I imagine it would, but I´ve seen in the dart screen post that generates more turbulence on the helmet area.

I can't say that I notice any significant increase in turbulence or helmet noise with the Dart screen, but I definitely notice the reduced wind blast and the higher relaxed cruising speed. Very worthwhile addition I'd say.