[Cristovao Morgado]

Has anyone seen this "new tech"

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Can this be used for our scambler?

 

[outofthebox]

Looks cool. It also seems to be ultra bright & super white - 4000 Lumens @ 6500 K. It's rated at 40W so that seems well within the ballpark of halogen headlamps and the existing cable should be able to support it.

While I'm not planning to swap mine on my Icon yet, I'm using a similar Cree LED based solution, albeit a lower powered one(10W low beam, 20W high beam), on my Royal Enfield Classic 500 with great results. I replaced all traditional bulbs on the bike with LED versions. This kit costed me $18 shipped from Aliexpress.

I had two main reasons for upgrading to LED in the RE bike:

a) Reduce the load on the battery and increase the juice available as cranking current during cold starts. I achieved 70% savings in power consumption over Halogen & traditional bulbs.
b) Improve road visibility in poorly lit patches of terrain during night riding.

Mine was rated at 2000 Lumens as I didn't want to blind incoming traffic so I purposely did not go for a brighter solution or a HID/projector Xenon kit.

The only issue I had during swap was accommodating the bigass cooling fan assembly - I had to chop off the cover, thus loosing the waterproofing of the cooling unit. So far so good, but I have not really done any significant riding during rains.

 

[Janek]

Is it ok for road use in EU?

 

[silverluxe]

Is 2000 bright enough compared to a 55w halogen?

My friend just bought a 3000 lumen rig for his Harley and my guess is that all oncoming traffic hates him now.

 

[PrerunTN]

My work sells replacement LED conversion head lamp assemblies as complete kits (not just conversion bulbs) and, for the most part, they have been bright and reliable. For a short period we tried a lower cost option by using A K/C lense assembly with a LED bulb packaged like the unit shown here. I dont know of the specific brand shown above but the experience taught us any LED with a fan connected may not be very reliable. About 40% of the combos we sold were returned as defective before we stopped offering the package. None of the high quality head lamp conversions we carry have or need a fan. Obviously we dont carry every brand so there may some good ones using a cooling fan but I generally steer away when offering headlamps to my customers. LED technology is very diverse. A consumer can buy a 50 inch long light bar for 200 dollars and expect to replace it every year due to failure or spend 1400 dollars and never need to replace the light bar.

 

[outofthebox]

Is it ok for road use in EU?

I have my doubts but maybe someone from the region can confirm this.

Is 2000 bright enough compared to a 55w halogen?

2000 Lumen CREE LED headlamps are are plenty bright and plenty white too. One can easily see the difference compared to a halogen headlamp for motorcycles which is typically in the range of 800 to 1500 lumens.

The thing with halogens is that there seems to be no exact correlation between wattage and light output unlike HID or LED. It varies from type to type. In my car I use Philips X-treme vision halogens (H4 55/60W) and they are bright as **** compared to the OEM 55/60W halogens.

 

[outofthebox]

@PrerunTN has plenty common sense advise in there. Any item with a moving part inside is more likely to fail.One thing I didn't stress enough are the challenges in installation within limited spaces and if one wants it to be a reversible swap without any hacks which is still dust and waterproof. Most $$$ solutions at least take care of those aspects.

Also, I have been dabbling with HID/Projectors/LEDs on my automobiles for a few years now and the technology is definitely following Moore's Law. As a result every year there is something better and smaller.

Initially the LED headlamps too used to come with bigass ballasts etc but they have reduced in size. I still feel the cooling fan idea is silly though and look forward to low cost options without one.

I haven't looked at Scrambler headlight assembly closely yet, but if I were to replace it with a LED solution I would still go for a 10/20W drop in solution with a heatsink at best - some have started emerging from the Asian suppliers. Wouldn't bother too much about the Lumens - I feel all those with 3000 Lumens etc are an overkill and outright dangerous on streets.

 

[PrerunTN]

Unnecessary moving parts definitely add to a higher potential failure rate. The thing I noticed the most was the fan seemed to be an attempt to get a low quality LED to last longer. Sort of like a band aid over a knife wound (but maybe not that bad) haha!