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Depending on your style, age or where in the world you live, this may be taboo or perfectly acceptable. I'll be the first to admit that I enjoy the odd back road wheel stand.

This MotoGeo vid shows a clutch-up on a Scrambler which appears to work well:

http://youtu.be/AjxfAfpoB7A

Since this is a relatively new bike, it would be good to hear owners' opinions on what they have tried and what works best for any inquisitive wheelie-ists among us (gear, rpm, clutch/no clutch, etc).
 

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You don't have to pop the clutch to loft the front with thus bike...
 
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Liking the sounds of all this. From what you guys are seeing, will it do clutch-less wheelies in 1st gear only or in 2nd as well? The bike being geared low probably helps a lot here too...
 

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Liking the sounds of all this. From what you guys are seeing, will it do clutch-less wheelies in 1st gear only or in 2nd as well? The bike being geared low probably helps a lot here too...
Even 2nd is no issue (with stock gearing)...
 
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Quick update on this. Still in the break-in period on my FT so haven't really given it WOT to see what happens. Certainly feels as though it would be capable though, if one were assertive enough with the throttle...which will only add to the misbehaving nature of this sleeper-hooligan!
 

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My front has not left the ground to my knowledge, and I have been pretty strong on the throttle, or so I thought. I haven't dropped the clutch in first yet though.
By no means am I encouraging anyone to ride like this guy (discussed ad-nauseum in another thread and I can't imagine doing that) but as you can see around :24, getting on the throttle aggressively from about 3-4K RPM appears to be enough to loft the front wheel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRkA2e2hOqQ

I have noticed that if you goose the throttle with anything less than very warm tires, that the back tire will lose grip and you'll just spin it a bit, rather than having the front end come up. For best results, usually best to use warm tires.
 

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Either my bike is severely underpowered or he's doing clutch-up wheelies. I can't see his clutch hand at the 0:26 mark in the video. Mine will pull the front wheel off of the ground only in first gear. But I've also never seen those red lights flash on my bike at high RPM because I've never surpassed about 7500 RPM.
 

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Either my bike is severely underpowered or he's doing clutch-up wheelies. I can't see his clutch hand at the 0:26 mark in the video. Mine will pull the front wheel off of the ground only in first gear. But I've also never seen those red lights flash on my bike at high RPM because I've never surpassed about 7500 RPM.
Listening to the audio (which is pretty crap), it did not sound to me as though he's doing a clutch-up (those usually make a fairly discernible sound from the quick rev of the motor before drop of the clutch)...but he is yanking on the bars a bit which probably helps.

I am getting my 1000km service done next week, at which point I'll be able to play a little more and speak intelligently about this :)
 

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OK...so post-break-in, I've been experimenting with this and can tell you for certain that 1st gear will power-wheelie quite easily. 2nd gear, not sure sure yet but still experimenting.

Here's a quick how-to for anyone wanting to try it (not on public roads, not around people...and other legal disclaimer jargon):

1) Make sure the engine and tires are warmed up (bike has no temp gauge so ride around for 5-10 min before you try it...don't try this straight out of your driveway as it will be bad for your motor and cold tires won't hook up very well)
2) Find a spot with solid tarmac (no dirt or gravel as they will cause your back tire to spin rather than hook up)
3) Cover the rear brake and roll along in 1st gear with the bike around 4K RPM (too low on the RPM and you won't have enough power to lift, too high on the tach and you'll run our of RPM's before the fun starts)
4) As you are rolling, chop the throttle quickly (the front end will compress slightly if you do it fast enough)
5) Get on the throttle very quickly (you need to snap the throttle fully open and do it immediately after you chop it)
6) As you snap the throttle open, lean back a little in preparation for the front end to come up (if you're scared, your natural inclination will be to lean forward which will make it harder/impossible for the wheelie to start)
7) Ride wheelie from 4k RPM until...well, until either you run out of road or until you start to run out of RPM's on the tach/red lights come on
8) When you decide you want to put the front end back down, don't chop the throttle (that will just slam the front end needlessly), back off it gradually and keep rolling to help distribute the weight as it comes back down. If done correctly, it won't feel harsh or abrupt at all and you'll just keep going on your merry way.

If this doesn't work for you, there are 3 more things you can try (outside of using the clutch, of course):

1) Sit a little further back on the seat and extend your arms to help get more weight over the rear wheel > I'm 6', 190 and don't need to shift my weight at all on the FT
2) After you chop the throttle and as you snap it wide open, give the bars a yank (like you used to do on your BMX as a kid)
3) Find a (private/deserted) road with a slight incline or decline on it and try the steps above as you crest the hill (*warning: the incline/decline will help a LOT so you may not need to goose the throttle very hard to get the front end off the ground...especially if the crest is steep!)

In my experience, the above procedure leads to a very easy-to-control, stable and not-scary power wheelie with the front wheel lofting above the ground a couple feet. When executed this way (on a flat surface without clutch, etc), there is no way it's going to reach the balance point, let alone flip over backward so no need to worry about that (still, cover the brake, just in case though).

This bike is just too much fun.
 

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Hey DJKham, thanks a lot for your how-to. I found it to be the best explanation by far on the web. Especially the magic number 4k seems important. It got enough torque there to make the wheel lift via close -> wide-open throttle.

I went to a bit over 4k actually, about 4.5k. Something like 40km/h.

I was initially very scared of wheelies. That together with not wanting too much wear on the clutch made me refrain from clutch wheelies. But this technique makes it soooo much more less intimidating. Awesome!
 
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