[kirkgarcia]

Hi, I´m from Argentina, I have been following the Scrambler release hopping the bike would get to my country and I could Buy one. I love the bike in every way possible. But something has come to my attention and has been confirmed true. The Scrambler Has NO Fuel GAUGE nor Gear Indicator... Both things much more important than the Clock or the Air Temperature that the DashBoard shows. The Fuel Gauge is one of the most useful things on a Bike, even more a bike that has as a central character Scrambling things up and ridding everywhere. The Gear Indicator Is one of the most useful things on Urban terrain, how come they incorporated a Clock and temperature, both things you can have just by owning a cellphone o r a simple Watch.
Can somebody Explain this horrible errors Ducati Made??:crying::crying:

 

[silverluxe]

Not that it's an excuse, but I've never owned a motorcycle with a fuel gauge or a gear indicator (other than the green neutral lamp.) So for me it's kind of like not knowing how nice it'd be to have a bidet next to my toilet... It is 2015 and all, but maybe that was part of their plan to keep it retro. More than likely it's how they keep it cheap.

 

[Ogre]

Horrible errors? I don't think so. It has a low fuel warning light and mileage indicator for reserve. Plus it has trip meters.

I had one bike out of 25 that has a gear indicator. It is not needed if you know how to ride. (no offense meant).

 

[kirkgarcia]

Cool Ogre! Non offense taken. I do know how to ride. What I meant is that being 2015, this two things are basic for new motorcycles, Obviously if you take old models those things are not available. In fact what makes me think it is an error is the "usefulness" of a Fuel Gauge and a Gear Indicator Vs. a Clock and an air temperature. That is my point. If you plan a long trip, it is very useful to have a fuel gauge. it is far easier to use a digital gauge (with a very low cost to install), than count the trip meters. It would make a much more easy trip. I hope you can understand my point of view. I mean we are in 2015 after all, with USB conectors under the seat... but no Fuel Gauge.. come on.

 

[netrunner]

Cool Ogre! Non offense taken. I do know how to ride. What I meant is that being 2015, this two things are basic for new motorcycles, Obviously if you take old models those things are not available. In fact what makes me think it is an error is the "usefulness" of a Fuel Gauge and a Gear Indicator Vs. a Clock and an air temperature. That is my point. If you plan a long trip, it is very useful to have a fuel gauge. it is far easier to use a digital gauge (with a very low cost to install), than count the trip meters. It would make a much more easy trip. I hope you can understand my point of view. I mean we are in 2015 after all, with USB conectors under the seat... but no Fuel Gauge.. come on.

I hear you but...the tripmeter is a reasonably accurate fuel guage plus you have a reserve light. I've never had a bike with a gear indicator---those are pretty rare on motorcycles. Would I like both on a Scrambler? You bet. Do I care much they aren't there? Nope.

 

[kirkgarcia]

Yes Netrunner, you are right, we can live without these things. I just hope that they consider introducing them in a near future... I mean they built in a USB, heated handle grips as accessories,and even LED lights. We will see in the future... But I insist. I rather have any of both than a Clock.
Regards Friends!

 

[DenverDuc]

I've owned many, many bikes and never had a gear indicator and only had 2 bikes with a fuel gauge, and I currently own two other Ducati Monsters which don't have a gear indicator or fuel gauge. Although it would be convenient to have them on the Scrambler, I think it's a bit extreme to call it unbelievable and a horrible mistake. Modern fuel injection, diagnostics and computers make the trip meters now far more accurate than manual gauges of the past, and if you really want a gear indicator you can buy an aftermarket one for about $150:


HealTech Electronics Ltd. ? Smart Tech for your Ride ? GIpro DS-series

 

[kirkgarcia]

DenverDuc, thanks for your Imput. It may have been a little farfetched to call it a horrible Mistake. It was more a heated reaction from the moment. But I insist that everyone is just saying they never had a bike with this or that. And that is not my point. my point is that being a modern Hip, scrambler, technological machine, i think they misplaced resources putting a clock and temperature meter instead of something that would have been more useful. You could still ride a Ford A, but if you are ridding a ferrari, you would like for it to have fuel injection.

 

[netrunner]

We are all tired of waiting for our Scramblers to arrive. It's like cabin fever!

 

[silverluxe]

Honestly, I prefer less. Anything I don't need on the bike is one less thing I have to worry about breaking someday, 20 years from now. I'm pretty zen, utilitarian in my taste though. Air cooled, carbureted, kick start, yes please!

This bike is going to be the fanciest thing I've ever owned. I will miss not having a reserve lever on the petcock. That's what I use to know I'm about out of fuel on everything else, haha.

 

[ralph]

Yes Netrunner, you are right, we can live without these things. I just hope that they consider introducing them in a near future...
Regards Friends!

Well it looks like the fuel gauge functionality is already built into the scrambler, at least the one pictured here. This picture is from a cycleworld article written four months ago and can be found here. Cycle World - DUCATI SCRAMBLER: Pulling at the Heartstrings in 2015 I guess it has already been planned for and built for a future iteration of the scrambler. I would prefer to have it on the scrambler myself, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

 

[alepplew]

Only thing I keep trying is to switch into the 7th because I love the bass Neutral indicator is there. 1st gear one can hear. Motor overheat warning is there (very appealing in an aircooled). Fuel gauges are not reliable anyway. At 200 km the light comes on, the reserve is good for a 50-60 km count(up)down that is being indicated. 2 Trip meters are available. I don´t know where you ride, but for my mountain scrambling in spring the thermo sensor comes in very handy. I am getting really nervous about wet road spots below 3°C...

Coming from design and manufacturing myself it is simple to understand: Clock and thermo gauge are integrated on the PCB essentially coming free. All other gauges would need external sensors and cabling making implementation way more expensive.

 

[TC3]

Anyone who wants a gear indicator could always add a Gi Pro which should be plug and play. As they are colored LED they are easier to see in some lighting conditions anyhow. Myself I rely on the engine note and feel when changing gear as easy to get used to.

 

[Olleke]

Well it looks like the fuel gauge functionality is already built into the scrambler, at least the one pictured here. This picture is from a cycleworld article written four months ago and can be found here. Cycle World - DUCATI SCRAMBLER: Pulling at the Heartstrings in 2015 I guess it has already been planned for and built for a future iteration of the scrambler. I would prefer to have it on the scrambler myself, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

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I think it was a try out version of the clock looks. I also saw one with a phone indication on it. Mine has the clock in there and canot be changed. With the owners manual came a wiring diagram. It had a "bluetooth" module drawn in there. Maybe also a try out thing.....

 

[Jerry Winder]

It's a little harsh to call it a horrible mistake, Ducati decided against it on this bike as many other manufacturers do on their new bikes. I'm afraid it's a case of caveat emptor for you my friend.


It's important to understand that the Scrambler, like it or not, is a bike built to a budget and I have to say I'm with others, rather than relying on a gear indicator to tell you what gear you're in get used to the bike and rather than reacting to what a gauge is telling you react to what you feel the bike and engine doing.


As for the fuel gauge, loads of new bikes don't have a fuel gauge, just reset your trip meter when you fill up if you don't want to trust the warning light.


Jerry

 

[ralph]

I think it was a try out version of the clock looks. I also saw one with a phone indication on it. Mine has the clock in there and canot be changed. With the owners manual came a wiring diagram. It had a "bluetooth" module drawn in there. Maybe also a try out thing.....

It just seems kind of strange that ducati would have supplied this image to the media. Anyway, I think there is something that's a good bet to surmise from the instrument cluster. That 12k tachometer for a 8k air-cooled engine pretty much guarantees a faster revving water-cooled engine is coming. Hopefully the 1200 cc which has twice the peak torque and horsepower of the 803 cc.

 

[frankd123]

low fuel indicator is all you need on a bike of this type. And a gear indicator? Come on, I pretty much always know what gear I'm in based on feel/rpms/speed. Doesn't take long before you become intuitive with your bike.

 

[PureEntropy]

I'm with kirkgarcia. I know its cost saving and not a mistake, but come on, no fuel gauge? What decade is this? There are many bikes half this price with fuel gauges. I rode a little Honda 400 the other day that had one. The fact you've been rocking your tank like Steve McQueen for the last few decades doesn't make it the future!
Where I live it can easily be well over 50/60km to the next service station, so the low fuel light is not much use. So don't forget to set the trip metre, etc - or just have a fuel gauge...

 

[silverluxe]

The 3.x gallon fuel tank is hopefully all the reminder you need. You should remember the last time you filled up since it was probably an hour and a half ago

I would start to feel the need with a 6 or 7 gallon tank on a bike that got 50mpg because it'd be much longer between fill-ups. When I ride around on fun bikes with my friends we're stopping for gas every hour to talk or let the guy with a chopper fill up his peanut tank. The Scrambler fits right in with all of the other bikes we've owned for decades. I think it's cool they kept it simple with one gauge instead of the classic tach and speedo setup.

Once you start adding every little thing that would be a 'nice to have' the bike turns into some old man's vacuum cleaner household appliance.

There are TONS of other bikes that have been ruined by 'nice to have' in the looks department.

The gauge sitting off center does scratch at my OCD symmetry nerve.

 

[Jerry Winder]

I will miss not having a reserve lever on the petcock. That's what I use to know I'm about out of fuel on everything else, haha.

What I don't miss about that is the bike going on to reserve while you're in the middle of a sharp overtake! You soon found out the colour of adrenaline then!


Jerry