[albie]

Here's a tip or observation I have found since fitting my Rizoma indicators front and rear to my Icon.
Firstly I did these a couple of weeks ago and they fitted nice and neat after I replicated the shape of the fix brackets but the front ones are awkward to do because the connectors are halfway under the tank and fiddly to do but I assure you it is able to be done by a general competent person. The reason I did go to the trouble of lifting the tank is
1/ I don't like cutting OEM parts apart to splice connectors in
2/ I had Rizoma indicators with specially bought Ducati connectors for it.

The rears are easy and just undo the 6 bolts holding the tail tray off and the connectors are viewable.

So here's where it got complicated. I had the resistors from the last bike my Monster 1100s and they had 1 per indicator to give correct flash rate but they also advise they could need up to 2 per indicator. So following that pattern it was done 1 per indicator and they worked but were flashing too fast for my liking but ok.
Next thought was I then need 2 per indicator then so ordered 4 similar from ebay and only £6 for 4 so not dear.
They came today so removed the rears as access quick and plugged on the extra ones. Hmmm still flashing the same rate. I then tried using the 2 Rizoma ones. Same thing flashed same rate. I then took the resistors off the rear and they flashed normal even with one on the front.
So there you are YOU DONT NEED RESISTORS it seems. I know that modern electronics have the flasher relay built into the ecu so maybe its smarter even more now and senses it.

if I can be bothered I may still lift the tank again to remove the front resistors to see if they slow down more. I doubt it will make much difference.


My local J&S sell Rizoma lookalikes for £15 a pair like mine. Not sure if they have the brilliance but had the same look.
Lf2 Led Fire Indicator Black - J S Accessories
Lf1 Led Fire Indicator Clear - J S Accessories

Moorespeed sell connector tails to Ducati OEM others may also.


Rizoma Billet motorcycles parts from Italy.
Rizoma Led Indicators


I will take pictures of where connectors are tomorrow when I button it all up .
Here are mine I fitted the Zero ( given to me) and a pair of Zero 11.

 

[outofthebox]

thank you for sharing this albie. so I gather the following from your post:

a)stock indicators in Scrambler are not LEDs
b)installing aftermarket LED indicators does not require additional flasher relays or resistors
c)Rizoma makes some good quality, super cool looking LED indicators (but pricey IMO)

1/ I don't like cutting OEM parts apart to splice connectors in

this is FYI for your future electrical projects on the bike:
3M™ Scotchlok™ Insulation Displacement Connector - Training

again, thank you for sharing and look forward to some pics.

 

[PeteI]

the 'club' ones look pretty cool. reminds me of late 50's cars.

 

[Jerry Winder]

Albie after you letting me know that the fronts were a bit of a pain I decided to let my dealer do mine at the first service this Thursday. I just can't be arsed these days it it's going to take much more half an hour :|

Jerry

 

[outofthebox]

I have these two lying around in my parts bin - a lot, lot cheaper than the Rizomas (courtesy Aliepxress.com) but with good quality parts - Cree SMDs and CNC aluminium for one and ABS for the other. as and when my Scrambler gets delivered, one of them will find their way onto the bike depending on aesthetics. I personally feel that round trafficators will always look a lot better on Scrambler than any other. Need to see it in the flesh to confirm though.

 

[albie]

I wouldn't use them if you even paid me too. I don't believe in hacking in like that. A soldered or properly crimped connector I would use just like all my restorations. Temporary fixing and just like those red yellow and blue crimp connectors are basically garbage and crimp badly.


This is purely my opinion

 

[outofthebox]

ha ha ha, okay, fair enough. of course nothing beats a factory like electrical connection.

but just so you know, for many situations, a Scotchlok joint is electro-mechanically identical to crimping, without the hassles of disturbing original cables and most definitely superior to a solder joint and is also water & dust proof without the need for sticky tapes.

besides, I've yet to see a 3M product which is of dubious quality or design, but that, is just my opinion.
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[albie]

Really depends on the type of cable your using. I have to be honest I used some 2 years ago on my company KIA CEED estate because I fitted a trailer towbar to it and there was nowhere to pick up cables easily and they were so skinny too. I kept having mares with the connections causing me to have no indicators one side and having to manually off on them to overtake when necessary. came and went but finally sorted by doubling up the wires. It be better than that. I don't have a fear of doing electrics but always want to do a job that works well and fits good and looks good and if theres a problem can be unplugged.

 

[outofthebox]

Yes I can totally relate to that sentiment. It's no fun driving or riding around with unreliable connections and malfunctioning accessories. I also tend to over engineer and make ultra reliable connections as far as possible.

 

[MartinSK]

Moorespeed sell connector tails to Ducati OEM others may also.


Rizoma Billet motorcycles parts from Italy.

So, both front and rear have this EE047H connector, which is Rizoma/Ducati serial number?
Or is this also known to the rest of the world and automotive industry under more generic "name" ?


I just want to test few options for turn signals and do not want to mess with the originals or solder anything..

Any ideas?

Thank you

 

[-CTR-]

Hello

So I just finished installing the Rizoma Club L indicators on the back and moving on to the front ones. But at first glance it seems that the way the Rizomas should be fixed to frame where the originals are located will be problematic in sense that the screw bolt does not fit due to the headlamp location?

Did you have any problem with that? Could you take a picture how are yours fixed in the front?

Thanks in advance!

 

[-CTR-]

Just finished installing Rizoma Club L indicators on my Classic. Couple of remarks from the process

1. I installed back ones first with resistors (1 per light). All 4 started blinking too fast. When I did the front ones as well with resistors (1 per light) then the blink rate is ok.

2. On the back adaptor would have been good (Universal Indicator Lights by Rizoma Bikes Accessories -) solved it with a rubber spacer, other wise the light would be against the fender.

3. Cable kit would have helped (Universal Indicator Lights by Rizoma Bikes Accessories -) solved it by cutting off the plug from original and shouldering

4. The front ones can not be fitted in the original cable hole as the rizoma light bolt is too long and head light will be on the way to fix it. Instead I used the bolt hole of the original light, which had to be drilled bigger (8mm) for the rizoma to fit through.

 

[GrooveBlender]

Just finished installing Rizoma Club L indicators on my Classic. Couple of remarks from the process

1. I installed back ones first with resistors (1 per light). All 4 started blinking too fast. When I did the front ones as well with resistors (1 per light) then the blink rate is ok.

2. On the back adaptor would have been good (Universal Indicator Lights by Rizoma Bikes Accessories -) solved it with a rubber spacer, other wise the light would be against the fender.

3. Cable kit would have helped (Universal Indicator Lights by Rizoma Bikes Accessories -) solved it by cutting off the plug from original and shouldering

4. The front ones can not be fitted in the original cable hole as the rizoma light bolt is too long and head light will be on the way to fix it. Instead I used the bolt hole of the original light, which had to be drilled bigger (8mm) for the rizoma to fit through.

Hey quick question did you get the daytime running lights figured out (Club L)? I am unable to figure out if I can splice into one wire for both the indicators up front, what did you do? Did you use Club S for the back?

 

[-CTR-]

My bad I had the Club version not Club L/S

Looking at the disclaimer on the Rizoma homepage about the adaptors it seems you need to go 2 wires.

 

[tuan1978]

Ducati LED indicators

Hi,

I'm new here. Was reading this thread to decide which way to go. In the end I decided to pay a premium and buy the Ducati ones, front and back. No hassle with installation at all, apart from the front ones where you have to lift the tank to get to the connectors. In the end a really nice result, I think.

 

[g_azuri]

A little help

Hi,

I'm new here. Was reading this thread to decide which way to go. In the end I decided to pay a premium and buy the Ducati ones, front and back. No hassle with installation at all, apart from the front ones where you have to lift the tank to get to the connectors. In the end a really nice result, I think.

I bought them too, but I haven't installed yet.
Is it complicated or do you need additional parts or accessories?
Thank you.

 

[bigwhizkid3]

Hi Everyone,

I just got my Scrambler Icon last week.

I replace the front indicator with Rizoma Drop and rear with Rizoma Club.

I printed some ABS adapters so it fit the indicator to the bike without any drilling.

 

[isidorosm]

Hi Everyone,

I just got my Scrambler Icon last week.

I replace the front indicator with Rizoma Drop and rear with Rizoma Club.

I printed some ABS adapters so it fit the indicator to the bike without any drilling.

Is by any chance the 3d model shareable?

 

[bigwhizkid3]

Sure. I will share it once I am home with the computer.

 

[bigwhizkid3]

Is by any chance the 3d model shareable?

Here is the STL file.