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Seems logical and likely. The 1200 motor is/has become Ducati's most refined powerplant with the latest DVT iteration. Having ridden every bike with that motor in it, I can tell you that it would be very well suited for the Scrambler in one of its later states of tune (first generation Diavel had terrible fueling, 2nd gen with dual spark was much better).

They put it in the Monster 1200 (aka "Miavel") which I found to be a terrible platform for that motor after the big air-cooled motors went the way of the dodo. Maybe they can get it right for a big Scrammy?

All this says to me though is that the 802cc gem we all have and love is still the way to go. The 500cc version will be down on power (sorry...I like to go fast sometimes) and the 1200 will be liquid cooled and much heavier (there are other bikes that I would prefer for that purpose).

Can't wait to see what happens next!
 

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Very interesting. I've heard rumblings of this. Honestly, I think demand for used 800cc bikes would be rather strong, as it bridges the gap between the new potential offerings. Only time will tell!
 

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my dealer confirmed this at my first service, if anyone cares. He didn't seem too thrilled about it, thought the 1200 motor would be too heavy and awkward and that the smaller one wont be that much cheaper to warrant it.
 

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my dealer confirmed this at my first service, if anyone cares. He didn't seem too thrilled about it, thought the 1200 motor would be too heavy and awkward and that the smaller one wont be that much cheaper to warrant it.
Your dealer must be privy to information no one else has then since this is not being reported (at least on the internet) anywhere. My local dealer as of two weeks ago doesn't think there will be any new engines for 2016. The water-cooled 1200 is too big to fit in the current scrambler. Ducati has stumbled upon a winning formula with the scrambler and it doesn't make much sense for them to muddy the waters with a newly designed frame to accommodate a new engine after a scrambler run of only one year.
 

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Your dealer must be privy to information no one else has then since this is not being reported (at least on the internet) anywhere. My local dealer as of two weeks ago doesn't think there will be any new engines for 2016. The water-cooled 1200 is too big to fit in the current scrambler. Ducati has stumbled upon a winning formula with the scrambler and it doesn't make much sense for them to muddy the waters with a newly designed frame to accommodate a new engine after a scrambler run of only one year.
I do not know about the 1200, but my dealer certainly said that Duc was working on a smaller engine... 500 or 400 cc. He did not know if they where going to announce this in this years EiCMA in November.
 

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I do not know about the 1200, but my dealer certainly said that Duc was working on a smaller engine... 500 or 400 cc. He did not know if they where going to announce this in this years EiCMA in November.
Could be, smaller definitely seems more likely than larger for a couple of reasons. I just have to take a grain of salt though whenever I see someone write "my dealer said..." From my own experience and from what I have read on this forum it seems like Ducati is in the habit of not telling their dealerships squat about what they are doing. But don't get me wrong, I would love to see ducati dump a cylinder and have a lightweight thumper actually designed for off-road. Even better for me would be to keep the scrambler as is and just drop in the late great 1100cc air-cooled engine. Woohoo! I just won't be getting my hopes up anytime soon.
 

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A smaller engine would make sense in emerging markets such as Asia.
I read that Ducati said they are dedicated to twins and won't be bringing out a single cylinder engine.
 

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Your dealer must be privy to information no one else has then since this is not being reported (at least on the internet) anywhere. My local dealer as of two weeks ago doesn't think there will be any new engines for 2016. The water-cooled 1200 is too big to fit in the current scrambler. Ducati has stumbled upon a winning formula with the scrambler and it doesn't make much sense for them to muddy the waters with a newly designed frame to accommodate a new engine after a scrambler run of only one year.
Dealer said a 400 and an 1100, we will see if it comes forth. Not the liquid 12 but air cooled older monster engine. similar to the 796 -> 803. Makes no difference to me, I am happy with the 800 and could care less for either.
 

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Dealer said a 400 and an 1100, we will see if it comes forth. Not the liquid 12 but air cooled older monster engine. similar to the 796 -> 803. Makes no difference to me, I am happy with the 800 and could care less for either.
Oh, OK. I guess I was a little thrown off by the....you know....the 1200 you actually wrote in your post.

my dealer confirmed this at my first service, if anyone cares. He didn't seem too thrilled about it, thought the 1200 motor would be too heavy and awkward and that the smaller one wont be that much cheaper to warrant it.
:laugh:

Like you I am happy with the 803. But if they drop in the 1100....just take my money Domenicali.
 

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A smaller engine would make sense in emerging markets such as Asia.
I read that Ducati said they are dedicated to twins and won't be bringing out a single cylinder engine.
Because of tax and licence issues in Singapore/MY/TH/Japan/India and even VN a sub 400CC scrambler assembled in ASEAN would do very well in the market I suspect.

I sold my KTM Duke 390 in one day in Singapore. That's how popular the <400CC market is there.
 

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Because of tax and licence issues in Singapore/MY/TH/Japan/India and even VN a sub 400CC scrambler assembled in ASEAN would do very well in the market I suspect.

I sold my KTM Duke 390 in one day in Singapore. That's how popular the <400CC market is there.
Australia Also. All those countries have different license needed to be able to drive a <400cc. It is a great market I think.
 

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