[Ed K]

My Scrambler has never failed to start, and it charges in the 14v range....

However, it does kick over quite slowly before igniting.

Are you guys and gals experiencing the same thing?

 

[barfridge]

It's a standard Ducati thing, they always seem to have a relatively weak starter fitted

 

[RamblingPath]

Barfridge is correct, it's a standard Ducati starter thing.

Mine though starts pretty quick and consistently, 2-3 chugs. Happy, happy.

The M796 was temperamental at first. It went away. Why? Dunno. ECU reflash, Tech checked the wiring in a separate issue?

Oh, you really didn't define slow.

 

[silverluxe]

Do the Ducatis suffer from the starter sprags coming apart like Triumph motorcycles?

 

[kimsan]

On My last Duc i went over 100.000km, and never had any problems

 

[Ed K]

Oh, ok, thanks guys...standard Ducati thing.

It starts in 2-3 chugs...

 

[AnotherHobby]

I swapped out to a lithium battery and mine starts a little quicker now (probably 1.5-2 chugs), and is also 7 pounds lighter.

I only swapped because my factory battery wouldn't hold a charge over night from day one. I could have had it replaced under warranty, but didn't want to deal with running to the dealer and all that. It was a good excuse to drop 7 pounds off the bike too. It's also a physically smaller battery (with the same power specs), so it left room for jumper cables and a few other small things in the battery area.

 

[silverluxe]

I swapped out to a lithium battery and mine starts a little quicker now (probably 1.5-2 chugs), and is also 7 pounds lighter.

I only swapped because my factory battery wouldn't hold a charge over night from day one. I could have had it replaced under warranty, but didn't want to deal with running to the dealer and all that. It was a good excuse to drop 7 pounds off the bike too. It's also a physically smaller battery (with the same power specs), so it left room for jumper cables and a few other small things in the battery area.

Do you know what part number your lithium battery is? I might be interested in heading down that path if my OEM battery craps the bed.

 

[RamblingPath]

I swapped out to a lithium battery and mine starts a little quicker now (probably 1.5-2 chugs), and is also 7 pounds lighter.

Requires it's own charging system, correct?

 

[outofthebox]

Do you know what part number your lithium battery is? I might be interested in heading down that path if my OEM battery craps the bed.

It's on my shopping list too ..
Batterie Lithium Ionen Scrambler - Italo-Shop Neuss

 

[AnotherHobby]

Do you know what part number your lithium battery is? I might be interested in heading down that path if my OEM battery craps the bed.

Here is the one I ordered on Amazon:

It matches the OEM battery specs for juice. Since it's physically smaller, It comes with foam blocks that will make it fill the exact same space if you want. Instead I took the opportunity to fill a small bag with a jumper cables and a few other things, and used that to fill the space.

The above battery weighs a mere 1.7 pounds. The OEM one weighed 8.7 pounds. Not only is that a 7 pound difference, it's 7 pounds that sits high up in the frame. I could actually notice bouncing the bike back and forth between my legs while standing (I'm over 6' tall).

Also, my OEM exhaust weighed 13.2 pounds, and the Termi weighed 5.8 pounds, so that was another 7.4 pounds. Between the two I saved 14.4 pounds, and my bike is now under 400 pounds with a full tank of gas. Not bad!

Requires it's own charging system, correct?

Not for charging — an automatic charger will work. If you want to use a battery tender, then you do need a special one. You can add the battery tender for only $30.

 

[silverluxe]

Sadly that's about the same price as the OEM AGM battery if I were to buy it locally. So yea, I think I'll go with a Lithium if the stock battery turns out to be bad.

 

[Meancatdaddy]

Noticed the sluggish starting on my bike, happy its normal. Definitely thinking of dropping that weight for a lithium.

 

[ride2kill]

That's exactly what I'm doing(exhaust and battery)… dropping weight is the same as adding power!
"Simplify, then add lightness” -Colin Chapman, Lotus.
If I could just quit eating junk food my bike would be really fast…

 

[Stu]

If the battery is the same as the Monster battery (size, location of the terminals) then this:

LFX18A1-BS12 - Shorai Lithium Batteries

I've used Shorai in my dirt bikes and they really get slammed around. They work great and the starter on my dirt bikes kicks over faster than with the standard lead acid Yuasa.

Stu

 

[fastwoman]

If you change the battery, do all settings revert to default? For instance, will I have to reload the Termi remap, and will the speedometer revert to kilometers? In other words, does a Ducati mechanic have to be involved, as a practical matter, for someone with only average skills?

 

[AnotherHobby]

If you change the battery, do all settings revert to default? For instance, will I have to reload the Termi remap, and will the speedometer revert to kilometers? In other words, does a Ducati mechanic have to be involved, as a practical matter, for someone with only average skills?

You will not need to reload the remap, but I do think I had to reset my clock and all of that jazz on the instrument cluster.

 

[tonyjuliano]

It's not a "Ducati" thing, but an "air-cooled twin" thing. Bigger, heavier flywheel = more "oomph" required to turn over. Really big twins (HD's and the like) need enormous batteries to crank over.

Be careful of those Lithium batteries - the tech is really not there yet for this application, I've had nothing but problems with them. If you ever let one go really flat, it will never charge again, and they lose significant cranking power in the cold (not charge capacity, but cranking amps).