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YES! Yesterday was a good day for Bologna,also second and fourth in MotoGP,Austin.Congrats to Borgo Panigale!
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power of money? (Audi?)

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power of money? (Audi?)
I dont think so.
Its the italian love for racing which made Ducati 17 times SBK World Champion,
even without the Audi money.
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I dont think so.
Its the italian love for racing which made Ducati 17 times SBK World Champion,
even without the Audi money.
Forza Ducati!
Audi money just complements their efforts
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Audi money just complements their efforts

That's what I mean, efforts need money

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I dont think so.

Its the italian love for racing which made Ducati 17 times SBK World Champion,

even without the Audi money.

Forza Ducati!

It's a little more complicated, sbk rules have played great role on this. Check other championship like superstock or ama and results are quite different.

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That's what I mean, efforts need money
Its Gigi (and money bought Gigi, agreed), there was a Matt Oxley article last year about jhust how knackered Ducati Corse was internally, engineers and mechanics not communicating, a strange array of bolt sizes but above all Ducati's old approach of building to horsepower and strapping any old chassis on its back...

The problem at Ducati - MotoGP - Motor Sport Magazine

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From their experiences, it seems like it isn’t so much that Ducati Corse has forgotten how to design a racing motorcycle as the company is suffering from some kind of ego problem: an unwillingness to believe that it’s doing anything wrong, despite the might of evidence against them, and an unwillingness to listen to the wisdom of people who’ve achieved much more MotoGP success than they have.

Does it matter if the bike is difficult to work on? Of course it does. Another mechanic told me about the overabundance of 7mm, 8mm, 9mm and 10mm nuts and bolts on the Desmosedici. While chatting to one of Ducati’s hallowed university-trained engineers, he suggested that these bolts should be either 8mm or 10mm.

Does it matter if the bike is difficult to work on? Of course it does. Another mechanic told me about the overabundance of 7mm, 8mm, 9mm and 10mm nuts and bolts on the Desmosedici. While chatting to one of Ducati’s hallowed university-trained engineers, he suggested that these bolts should be either 8mm or 10mm.



The engineer looked at him quizzically: but how will that make us faster on the race track? So the mechanic explained: “I can’t quickly tell the difference between a 7mm and an 8mm nut or a 9mm and a 10mm bolt, but I can visually tell the different between an 8mm and a 10mm nut or bolt. So, if we’re in the middle of a 45 minute practice session, trying to make a shock change, I have to look carefully at every nut and bolt to work out its size, so every job takes longer than it should.

“So while Honda might be able to make two shock changes in a session, we’ll only have time to make one. And Honda’s second shock change may be the one that finds them that extra few tenths a lap that wins them the race.”

The engineer still didn’t get it. Why should he listen to a lowly mechanic without a string of letters after his name? The 7mm, 8mm, 9mm and 10mm bolts stayed.

I say lowly mechanic because another told me how they were treated like second-class citizens by senior management. There’s a class system in operation, he said. “Derision” was a word he used. The thing is that, along with the riders, mechanics are the front line troops. If you don’t listen to them, you’re in trouble, just as the military leader who has no time for the opinions of his troops on the front line is doomed.
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